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Falco
Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 15 Location: The Drawing Room
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:02 am Post subject: |
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I think the question of sexual differences comes down to your end goal and what the game's designers are trying to accomplish.
If the goal of the game is to kill mobs and level and raise your stats, etc. then having sexual differences requires some balance. If female characters don't have the same strength as male characters, there should be a corresponding positive difference in a female characters intelligence or dexterity over that of males'.
If the goal of the game is an RP environment where PCs will interact socially and in the context of the gameworld, then sexual differences can only add to the RP by presenting the kind of conflict that generates plots and RP.
The key is to communicate to the player that it is their character that is affected, not the player themselves. In all cases, players should be treated equal and allowed (provided they can RP it successfully in the case of the latter example) to choose the sex of their character.
Later,
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Kaz

Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Posts: 24 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | If the goal of the game is to kill mobs and level and raise your stats, etc. then having sexual differences requires some balance. If female characters don't have the same strength as male characters, there should be a corresponding positive difference in a female characters intelligence or dexterity over that of males'. |
Why? There is genuine fact that, in this world at least, the proportion of body muscle in the average male is higher than the proportion of body muscle in the average female.
There are no similar findings for either intelligence or dexterity.
In many Wheel of Time games, the penalty for male magic users (channellers) is madness, where there exists no similar penalty for female magic users. This "imbalance" is just taken to be part of the game world. Why should it be otherwise? Because of some people who perceive the weaknesses of a set of characters in a fantasy setting to be their own?
But heck, for fun, why not have the stats lower on the female, and then fudge their die rolls positively ("luck"). |
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KaVir

Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 565 Location: Munich
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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I got a copy of Designing Virtual Worlds for Christmas, and while reading through it I noticed that Bartle covers many of the points we've discussed here (page 378, "Physical Differences", for those who also have the book).
In particular, he discussed men having "greater upper body strength" (and mentioned that this was actually implemented in MUD1), and pointed out how character gender isn't really all that different to character race. He also drew attention to the idea of "neutral differences", such as clothing and armour designed to fit a specific gender, and summarised by stating that gender differences can be "embraced fully, embraced cosmetically, or conveniently ignored", pointing out that most muds do the latter unless they are making a deliberate point about gender. |
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Tyche
Joined: 13 May 2005 Posts: 176 Location: Ohio, USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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KaVir wrote: | I got a copy of Designing Virtual Worlds for Christmas, and while reading through it I noticed that Bartle covers many of the points we've discussed here (page 378, "Physical Differences", for those who also have the book).
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Just wondering...does he talk about MUD's rape command in the book? |
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KaVir

Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 565 Location: Munich
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:18 am Post subject: |
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Tyche wrote: | Just wondering...does he talk about MUD's rape command in the book? |
He mentions it briefly, as part of a section on how he believes such a command should be handled (page 554 for the curious, as it's not in the index). I wasn't particularly impressed with that section to be honest, in particular the suggestion that it's not acceptable to not have a 'rape' command because "...it is important, it shouldn't be avoided, and you are giving it a response (specifically, that you don't mind having in your world people who think rape is okay)"!
Most of the book seems well thought-out, but there are a few very odd viewpoints like that! |
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